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Bowser’s only redeeming qualities are UpB out-of-shield, a command grab, his ledge get-up, and the Yoshi’s Story counterpick (on which he gets a no-impact-landing ledge-jump under 100%). ( Log Out /  Peach does, however, lose to Marth. So please, resist the urge. ( Log Out /  I am sure I forgot something somewhere along the line, so I’ll make a note of any significant edits I make in this post. Game&Watch’s crouch-cancel Dtilt, Fair, Dair, Nair, Dthrow, and jab give him enough tools to stay at the top of this tier. Another major oversight of the first iteration of this list was putting Bowser above Kirby. Samus has a really hard time doing well when the player is excited or nervous. He has reliable Uair juggles (even if every Uair only does a few %) and a decent dash dance. W6: Ever: 2 - 0: Pippy_Pal: EBS Ultimate #50 17/12/2019. Find weak and strong matchups for Samus. 21. So don’t interpret that a 7 means the same in Peach vs. Samus and in Peach vs. Pika (even though I agree that it should, but this is not at ALL an exact science), but all three having a 7 vs. Samus means I think that they all do the same against her. Find counterpicks, good matchups, and bad matchups. Ideally you'd use "counterpick resistability" as weights and not just "match-up total," but I haven't much time. He hardly reaps the benefits of his disjoint, however, due to the sweetspot of his moves lying on the inside of his sword, forcing him to space close to his opponent for any meaty hit. Two will be labeled as Character 3 v Character 4. Samus boasts one of the best matchups versus Fox and Falco, with top Fox players struggling in the matchup, even in 2016. Samus has some pretty good Matchups vs some top … And so Sheik’s evenly distributed, positive matchup spread, and her advantages over Peach and Falcon, put her over the very slightly over Peach. Chart []. DISCUSSION. I tried to make an updated Melee matchup chart because the current ones are out of date. Does that mean they’re even? Some say that Sheik vs. Marth is even as Marths get better, but it is even at best. Additionally, he beats every B tier character and below, notably Samus and Ice Climbers. Maybe they won’t reach 50:50, but the matchups are certainly heading in that direction. This just helped me organize my thoughts… but even if you tweak the numbers slightly, we see that Sheik has an advantage of at least 10 points over Peach in both categories. Plus, apparently he has an okay matchup against Peach due to her inability to catch him. Looking forward, I would love to see more Ganon players master the B tier matchups and cause some upsets. Luigi goes approximately even with Samus, Ice Climbers, and Pikachu. Doc has a decent combo game and a decent neutral with his pills, but suffers a bit from his poor recovery and slowness. Character matchup (SSB), matchup charts for Super Smash Bros. Mario and Young Link are, in my mind, very close for the top spot in this tier. He may have an advantage over Samus and Pikachu, but those matchups are very underdeveloped right now so it is hard to say. I also give more weight to matchups higher up on the tier list, because they are bigger threats in a tournament setting, but occasionally have to decide whether one or two decent matchups in the high/top tiers with multiple bad matchups is better or worse than all matchups being slightly disadvantaged (for example, determining whether Samus > Ice Climbers or vice-versa). Ultimate. Games include, Quake Champions, Super Smash Brothers, Overwatch, Street Fighter, Tekken, Mortal Avoid having a full Charge Shot. These type of character matchups are particularly useful for games with 1on1 or one versus one, Posted by. And it isn’t just 20GX. Counter characters, characters who are … That concludes my tier list post! Placing Sheik and Peach was the hardest part of the tier list for me. She has no ground speed, however, which limits her ability to actually play neutral. Even that is better than what Peach has. Phew. Tierlist, tiers, rankings. This puts him below Mario, Young Link, and Link. Unfortunately his shield is garbage and he’s extremely light. Learn to jump over and avoid projectiles as this can put Samus in disadvantage. His neutral is not very good. Tier List / Matchup Chart. Most (if not all) diehard Melee fans are familiar with Aziz “Hax” Al-Yami’s theory of 20XX. Ban Yoshi’s versus Bowser, however, and you can pretty much run around him all day. Tot. Samus has one of the best Up-Bs out-of-shield. Samus counterpicks and tips. Also, you’ll notice that I used a points system – the points for X vs. Y plus the points for Y vs. X will always equal 0. Mewtwo made the biggest jump on this list, increasing four spots. Change ). I promise the other sections won’t be nearly as long as this one. or one v one gameplay. Her Bair is such a strong tool, capable of literally shutting down most characters in neutral. Additionally, Sheik generally wins the head-to-head (though recent events have led me to believe that matchup is getting closer to even). Samus can pull off an unreliable shield-break combo with FlickedSideB - FullChargeShot. He also may have a losing matchup to Peach and Marth. Tot. votes — Total number of votes this match-up has received. Super Smash Bros. Melee: Super Smash Bros. Brawl: The July 2015 Reddit Smash Bros 4 Tier List Results: S Rank: - Sheik - Rosalina & Luma. Press Enter / Return to begin your search. Falcon’s metagame is developing. Some speculate that Samus can do more to win the matchup, but currently the matchups seem near unwinnable at the very top. As for Doc, I think he is still a relevant threat to high tiers, but so many players have given up on him that we hardly see Doc players anymore. At different percentages you can use it as a combo starter. Fox. So here I go over the 50/50 matchups with Samus, all of them, which is why this video is so long. Samus Matchups. In kind of an arbitrary way. This type of site applies to MOBA's such as League of Legends, DoTA, Vainglory, LoL, Arena of Heroes, Heroes of Super Smash Bros. Thanks for reading this far, I know it was a lot. Roy has a disjoint, a great Dtilt, and some kill moves. His small size is an advantage, making him hard to hit. Excuse me have you seen an A button around here? This page explains how to successfully counterpick the champion samus in the game Super Smash Bros. If you want to find matchup charts for Diddy Kong, go to Diddy Kong's character page. Pikachu is fast, has an awesome recovery, and possess one of the strongest off-stage games versus Fox and Falco. No? This list is mostly based on my opinions on what each character’s strengths are, and how the matchups play out. For nearly a decade, Axe has single handedly carried Pikachu into relevancy. Samus Samus's Counter Picks. Turnips keep her relevant, but Marth’s speed and disjoint and kill setups keep him winning. Unfortunately, Pichu suffers from Pika syndrome in that Pichu has no damage output… except to himself. votes — Total number of votes this match-up has received. Kirby can tech-chase out of Dthrow, and has some swallow-cide shenanigans near the ledge, but nothing that gives him the tools in neutral or to sufficiently punish other characters. use it by falling or jumping off stage to block your opponents path to stage. Your vote — How you voted this match. His best aerial is Bair, which makes approaching a bit difficult (but if you watch my DK from the Prime Low Tier tournament, you’ll see that he can use pivots out of dash-dances in neutral to set up approaching Bairs!!). Not having it full also allows for better movement with b-reverses. One will be labeled as character 1 v character 2. Super Smash Bros.: # = % chance of winning against opponent. For example, Falcon vs. Falco and Pichu vs. Falco might both be written as -10, but Falcon clearly has better tools for fighting Falco. A Tier – Falco, Sheik Zelda’s Fair, Bair, and Dsmash are her best moves. I summed every value and found that Peach and Sheik both end up with the same net matchup value: 4. Archived. Use bombs as an edgeguard to disrupt recovery (as well as give an edge on a kill). Pichu is fast, has some combos, a couple of decent kill moves, and an okay neutral. He has some decent recovery tricks, but the tricks fall flat when an opponent knows the matchup. The most notable part of C tier, in my opinion, is the inclusion of Ganondorf. Melee. We just need more people to pick them up and use them. Her special moveset is based on power-ups from her home series, which includes the Charge Beam, the Grapple Beam (as her Grab), the Screw Attack, and Bombs. Super Smash Bros. Super Smash Bros. Melee is a 2001 crossover fighting video game developed by HAL Laboratory and published by Nintendo for the GameCube.It is the second installment in the Super Smash Bros. series. To learn more about how these tier lists are made check out the "Tier list" article on … More specifically, ranking characters by how likely they are to win a match under tournament conditions given that the players are of similar skill and both have knowledge of the matchup. Powershielding literally lets a player turn Falco’s strength against him. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. Ice Climbers have an extremely intricate set of tools involving desyncs, and the ever-controversial 0-death Wobbling technique. I think Pikachu belongs in this tier because he presents a threat to high tiers comparable to the threats of Ice Climbers and Samus, but is a clear 3rd, due to his low damage output and lack of any clearly positive matchup in the S and A tiers. As more players become proficient with powershielding, however, the effectiveness of lasers decreases. Also, when I refer to Marth’s guaranteed kills on Puff off a grab, I don’t just mean the pivot tipper Fsmash, which is what we all know and love. His Fair is good, and he has a kill throw, but his neutral is not great – most characters can just dash-dance until Ness does anything, and then punish. But if both players are given sufficient matchup knowledge, we will still find that Fox wins the matchup. He still loses to A tiers and S tiers, but in many cases possesses the tools to deal with more scenarios than Ganon does. Link gets put ahead of Ness because of somewhat better matchups further down the chart. Note that although this is the current matchup chart as of 2010, it is subject to change with the meta. Depending on Puff’s DI off an Fthrow, Marth can cover every option with Usmash, wavedash Fsmash, pivot Fsmash, or wavedash Dsmash tipper. Please, please resist the urge to take apart the matchup chart. So keep that in mind. Place enough bombs to blow up an airplane. Young Link can put up a fight against Peach and Puff, but I think his threat has diminished significantly as the meta has evolved. Luigi can match or surpass some high tier characters in speed, and has a pretty reliable punish game. Matchup Search Enter your character: Bowser Captain Falcon Donkey Kong Dr. Mario Falco Fox Ganondorf Ice Climbers Jigglypuff Kirby Link Luigi Mario Marth Mewtwo Mr. Game & Watch Ness Peach Pichu Pikachu Roy Samus Sheik Yoshi Young Link Zelda SSBM Matchup Chart #6: Pikachu v Marth and Samus v Sheik. Kirby possesses the “fence of pain,”, aka his Bair wall, and some decent tilts. Newearth, and Paladin. Additionally, because of his enormous hurtbox and normal-sized shield, he cannot block very many hits before getting shield-poked. Therefore, he remains in F tier. I thought a lot about the placings of every character, and this is the result. Even if you tweak some of the numbers for both, the result will be in the same ball-park. Yoshi has an extremely high skill cap with his parry tricks and double-jump cancels, and one of the best crouch-cancels in the game. But his tech-roll is virtually non-existent, and he dies in three hits. Her incredible aerial mobility, multiple jumps, and powerful aerials leave her with only a couple of losing matchups: Fox and Marth. But first, I wanted to share a couple of images. So then I decided to find the sums of matchup values for Fox thru Falcon, and for Peach thru Falcon (in the order of this chart). ( Log Out /  Upcoming Smashes. Both characters are equally capable of winning a national, and both have very solid matchup spreads. I know some people will be upset that Doc is below Luigi and Yoshi, but hear me out. Samus also has one of the best crouch cancels in the game, and one of the best out-of-shield options: her UpB. I promised an in-depth discussion on my decision-making process, so I will go through pretty much the whole list in detail. to hone your skills and learn about popular matchups and game tips Players generally like to know who is good versus It combos into uair, fair, and upb. Okay, I'll go now, Just Play ZSS. 5 years ago. You can use all of his jumps and pretty much end up where you started, and, for some reason, if he gets hit out of his UpB, he loses all of his jumps. — The weighted average score of the match-up. I consider results and what I have observed in tournaments as evidence, but understand that matchup unfamiliarity and character scarcity can often skew results. Samus boasts one of the best matchups versus Fox and Falco, with top Fox players struggling in the matchup, even in 2016. Ganon may have the edge here and there, but when he loses, he really loses. Ice Climbers, Samus, and Pikachu all have good neutral games, good punishes, decent recovery, useful projectiles, and some sort of advantage that puts them above every character below them. (Marth user)". Every SSBU matchup chart is a source of valuable information - players can understand where their character is especially strong and where they potentially may have problems. Down B can also be used for stalling off ledge if you spam them enough (I wish that was a joke), Down throw is what I like to call "ridiculous". For Samus, the Super Punch is hers, Use of this guide on any other web site or as a part of any public display is strictly, Samus. Caveats aside, here is the chart: What is a tier list? He is stronger than Young Link, but not nearly as mobile, which makes him less of a threat to floaty characters. Melee Singles Bracket Ganon doesn’t need to land many hits to get Puff or Peach or Fox to kill percent, but if he never lands a hit, then it doesn’t matter. It would be clever to train more with the opponents from the disadvantage groups - take them to the Training Mode or Smash against CPU. There are some wet noodle combos involving sourspots, but DI away is, most of the time, sufficient to escape. Roy and Zelda are very close on this list – they have a couple of strengths, but so many weaknesses. who. Additionally, she easily holds the title for best off-stage game, which includes both edgeguarding and recovery. 2020 Falco Melee Techs Guide. As arguably the greatest Super Smash Bros Melee player of all time and the second highest-earning Melee player, Armada’s opinion holds a lot of weight. If not winning, then certainly close to even. He has a disjoint, and two good projectiles: bombs and his boomerang. Try pulling this off against enemies when their shield is damaged. Once again, I haven’t really been satisfied with any tier lists for Melee I’ve seen, community-voted, panel-dictated or otherwise, so I hope this list satisfies others like me (and more). Ultimate matchup select for heroes, champions, and characters. 2 years ago. Samus can deploy the highly explosive missiles into foes with much ease. Sheik has strong edgeguards as well, but the punishes are not as consistent. I’m very interested to see how this evolves in the meta (Falco players may start ‘faking out’ with lasers by landing before the laser comes out to bait a shield and get a grab, while players against Falco may start eating a laser hit or powershielding more consistently in order to push Falco’s next move). by Third Chair ... An analysis of the Fox vs Samus matchup. Her recovery goes very far, but with any amount of matchup knowledge it is very punishable. A fair amount of discussion ensued, which I really appreciated. Sheik’s metagame developments mostly revolve around movement. Peach also has better matchups against Fox and Falco, with an incredibly strong punish and edgeguard game on Fox and a possibly winning matchup on Falco. His inability to confirm kills easily means that Doc outclasses him, and makes his high tier matchups that much more difficult. Character matchup (SSBM), matchup charts for Super Smash Bros. Melee. For an aggressive aproach that can scout what your opponent does in a rather safe way is to jump grab that has a nice range and little lag, can also set up for dash attack at low perc or charge shots. Creating charts is a great way to earn points on our Community Leaderboard as well. recovery, putting her above Roy. The first is the list of changes from my first list to the second list: The second is a matchup chart that I made for Fox through Ganondorf. Competing in Melee and Ultimate Simultaneously. Top 30, but it is even as Marths get better, but lacks a strong and... 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